Hi here's the old boy dancing now.
Will
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every time i see a picture of ct russell i think man he looks just like a leprechaun.. .
edited by - d wiltshire on 19 july 2002 1:54:20.
Hi here's the old boy dancing now.
Will
hello, first time poster, long time reader.. i was wondering just what my title asks.
if i own/read/admit to apostate material, can that get me df'ed?.
i know better then to admit that i believe the apostate material to the elders, or that i disagree with the society's teachings, but will simply admitting to owning and reading them get me df'ed?.
One word answer, YES. Most dubs try to make out that their so open minded about things but don't let that fool you, they are not open minede if they are a good dub.
Will
thats often the reason given by the wts.
yet bill bowen faces excommunication whilst 23,000+ paedophiles remain in the association of jehovah's witnesses.
the wts could hardly care less what happens to little children or what evil pervades the kingdom halls as long as no one tries to disturb the ether.. isp
If you read their elders secret manual, it says that the congregations interest are put ahead of individual interests. So it is protect the congregation from corruption at all costs.
Will
some one asked: .
>>i don't understand.
i honestly do not understand how active jws can be presented with hundreds upon hundreds of cases that have occurred all over the world, and casually deny that there is any problem.<<.
I said it in an earlier post, The WT is a multi billion dollar corporation and there number one goal is to protect it. If they admitted to guilt this would open up the flood gates of lawsuits to every person that was ever abused by another Dub and was covered up by the local elders. If that happened the GB of the Watchtower corporation might as well hand the keys over right now to all their assets. This may still happen but they will definitely go down with a fight.
Will
why silentlambs *must* be judicially crucified (watchtower's reasoning) .
many have stated how dumb the wtbts must be for arranging the judicial execution of bowen, given what the international media can do (and i sincerely hope *will* do) with the story of what the "society of the mentally-ill or perverted" in brooklyn did to the person who tried to save children from brutal and repeated rape.. actually, they had no real choice.
their real stupidity (and of course organizational criminality) was ever letting the scandal get to this stage, and we here should all know the mindset that made that happen.. given the position today, they *have* to judicially murder (the actual sentence to be executed by their crazed killer-god jehooooobah, note) - not because to "let him off" would signal more rebellions from those only held in by fear, but because the only way they can discredit bill is by calling him a disgruntled, ex-jw apostate.
I agree with you. The borg has no other alternative but to Disfellowship Bill. In their close society that depends on total control, that is the only way they know how to deal with dissenters. ( And they claim they are not a cult). As far as them keeping this scandal quiet, the genie is out of the bottle, so I think it is a little to late to hush it all up. Also now you have others that are coming forward and doing a lot of the letter writing etc. So it is not just a matter of shutting up silent lambs. The WT knows it is going to take a hit and a bad hit one on this. I don't think you will see the end of the WT in the near future but with all the legal lawsuits that they will be having to fight and the loss of funds coming in, there will have to be drastic changes within the organization in order for it to survive. So all you old farts on the GB take this warning to heart before its too late, you can't just go and stick your head in the sand and hope this all goes away because your haven't seen nothing yet.
Will
dateline was aired in the us, panorama in the uk - the missing link seems to be canada.
a segment on as it happens, which is broadcast in much of the us would be terrific.
any thoughts on how to accomplish this?.
I have already wrote an Email to CBC to get them to air the Panorama segment on Canadian television. I know they do air BBC stuff from time to time. I think the more that write to them and ask the better chance we have of them airing it.
Will
the following email was sent to me today, if anyone would like to send and encouraging comment to loris i will be glad to forward it to her.
all she did was tell the truth and now she is facing sanction in the congregation.
so according to wt pr you are not sanctioned if you go to the police but you are sanctioned if you talk about it.
All the best Loris,
We are all behind you a 100%. Its just desperate measures from a bunch of desperate old men to keep the truth from getting out. The WT is falling like a deck of cards and lets see if they really have spirit backing.
Will
well it appears the watchtower is back at their executions.
after jr brown besmirched her moral character by saying she was being disfellowshipped for other sins unrelated to the dateline program, now three men want to meet her at a motel?
why not the kingdom hall?
Good point LG but if it was me I would still want legal representation. With that many elders it be more of a reason for me to want to bring in a lawyer.
Will
in 1878 ted jaracz' predecessor, charlie t. russell, whipped himself into a frenzy of self-righteous expectation and led a cluster flock of his friends and associates out onto the streets to stand expectantly on the sixth street bridge in pittsburgh dressed in white robes waiting to be caught up into heaven.
nothing happened, but charlie lacked the stones to jump off that bridge into the allegheny river and call jesus' bluff.
now hard times have hit the 'tower: contributions (the parasites' life blood) are down, and "da boss" is getting ready to whack off about a thousand brothas and sistas and cast them adrift to fend for themselves in the cold cruel worldly world.
Ha ha ha ha ha
Good post. The poor borg is losing its control. So sad....
Will
well it appears the watchtower is back at their executions.
after jr brown besmirched her moral character by saying she was being disfellowshipped for other sins unrelated to the dateline program, now three men want to meet her at a motel?
why not the kingdom hall?
I take it that legal representation is out of the question here? I think she would be in her rights to respond and say "due to the unorthodox request, I would like a legal representative present." "Until this request is honored I will not meet with you."
As someone has stated earlier here it sounds strange but the elders must be getting guidance from mother (WT legal department). I think she should fight fire with fire and talk to her own lawyer before she meets with them.
Will